Is the Enneagram a Trojan Horse in the Church? With Marcia Montenegro—The Alisa Childers Podcast #8110/4/2020 Is the Enneagram a harmless personality test or is it something that could be spiritually harmful to Christians who use it? On today's video I talk with ex-Astrologer Marcia Montenegro, who is now a committed Christian about the New Age influence of the Enneagram and it's rapid growth within the church. Links mentioned in the podcast: Articles on the Enneagram by Jay Medenwaldt The Enneagram GPS: the Gnostic Path to Self, by Marcia Watch on YouTube: Get Marcia's book: Get Alisa's book:
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Robert Collie
10/5/2020 02:48:42 pm
I remember going to a 1970s workshop on Pyramid Power when I was in high school in San Antonio, TX. My memory is that it was a new age discussion on the use of pyramids to slow or prevent food from rotting - and the speaker, Dr. G. Patrick Flanagan, was selling books and a round copper embedded plastic disk, that he said held the same energy patterns as a pyramid. I bought both and still have the disk. The metal image on the front is an enneagram and the back has concentric circles that form a ying-yang pattern.
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10/6/2020 08:48:54 am
Hi Lisa! Enjoyed this podcast. I hear of the "E" a lot on one of the Leadership podcasts I listen to. I almost decided to stop listening but every once in a while he has a guest I want to listen to. he and his guest are saying often "I'm a ___" what is yours? UGH! Anyway, I have shied away from the E because some of the research I have read by others put a check in my spirit. So thanks.
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Jennifer
10/20/2020 10:56:03 am
I recently listened to this podcast and was saddened by lack of understanding surrounding the purpose of the Enneagram. I’d like to offer some clarity around the reason some Christians find it helpful from a fellow sister in Christ who has taken an in-depth look at the tool for years. The Enneagram is a tool that can reveal the specific ways we are held captive to our old self and helps us identify the exact places sin and brokenness make us fall short of the glory of God—those exact places that need the transforming presence of CHRIST. The idea is not to start looking more inwardly at the self than we are looking upwardly at the cross, but rather to identify those parts of ourselves that need to be cut away as part of the “old self” scripture tells us to take off. It indeed requires some careful inward reflection to do that and ultimately the goal of using this tool is to learn to die to “self” daily.
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Suzanne Asfar
10/22/2020 06:25:23 pm
Thank you, Jennifer, for the defense of the enneagram! Listening to Montenegro, I was having flashbacks to my conservative 80s upbringing that labeled and feared all things not in the Bible as “new age” and evil. As a former astrologer, her warnings come as fear-mongering about “unclean” things because it has been her own stumbling block. The whole earth is telling the glory of god, and that includes science, psychology, and the enneagram - whose truth encourage many believers on their journeys.
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Alison
10/24/2020 12:50:48 pm
Hi Jennifer and Suzanne! Do you both believe that scripture supports your view that He will use pagan tools to set us free?
Nicki
11/16/2020 02:40:52 pm
Thank you so much Jennifer. This is so well worded.
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Whitney Creath
10/26/2020 01:03:43 pm
The cross was most definitely a pagan tool, that God used for the good of all man kind.
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Rob H
1/4/2021 08:32:04 am
Love this.
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